Oh did you see the cute couple look at his kallah .. this has unfortunately become a normal standard in our circles. The couple who dont publicize their picture are the exception not the norm. Websites publicizing private pictures for the world to see. Social media has now taken over the internet. The content of videos and jokes passed around daily has dulled our sensitivities and lowered the tznius bar. Frum websites showing pictures of newly engaged chasanim and kallas has become a norm. Naive trusting Frum girls dont realize the churban of sharing a private picture or video on Whatsapp. I no time someone else gets their hands on it and it is passed around for the world to see on various whatsapp groups.
The battle over TV was won years ago, now the TV has returned but in a more sophisticated and sneaky way. A new recent phenomenon is taking place which until now has never been an accepted behavior by the frum torah yeshiva world and especially by the Chasidish crowds.
Frum couples posting pictures of themselves. Not just a regular picture, but pictures showing affection. Pictures of chiba, weather they are touching each other, holding hands, hugging, or other poses that are not to be for the public to see and considered Chiba b'rabim. Yet, young frum couples innocently upload these pictures on facebook for all to see with out any busha. It can be the private pictures of the Chasunah or of a recent vacation. This is not happening by the modern orthodox crowd, it is by the yeshivish baal habatish and heimish crowd. Take a look at your friends facebook page and many are posting images which is purely Chiba berabim. Never have people in previous generations publicized such pictures of themselves outside of their home.
And your point is?
ReplyDeleteThe point is that are sensitivities have dulled. The fact that you didn't see the point is exactly the point.
DeleteJust to show how far things have come, my parents have a painting in their home of my father's grandparents (who were killed in the Holocaust HYD). It is a painting of them together, a typical Hungarian "Ashkeizishe" (not Chasidish) couple.
ReplyDeleteAn older gentleman once noticed the painting and said something was wrong. Such people would have never taken a portrait together! (Which of course they didn't, the painting was done after the war from photographs.)
Very VERY TRUE!
ReplyDeleteThose who lack affection can't stand public displays by those who have it.
ReplyDeleteThose who lack affection need to create a false impression with public displays of artificial affection.
DeleteWhat a stupid comment. Following your (il)logic, those who pose for pornographic pictures are the most loving. Which we know is clearly untrue and has proven to be quite the opposite.
DeleteWhat a stupid reply to my comment. Affection isn't any physical contact between a man and woman. Anyone who has some knows the difference between affection and lust.
DeleteWhat a poor attempt at deflection.
DeleteEveryone knows that you were trying to make a point that showing affection publicly is proof that the people are affectionate and those who don't do so are afraid of affection.
If publicly displaying pictures of affection is proof of affection, then it follows suit that that people who pose in porno are in love or affectionate. And those who find is distasteful are incapable of love and affection. Which any intelligent person knows is clearly not true. (Which explains why you are having difficulty with it).
More to the point, true affection is a private matter between two people. Publicly displaying is most likely demonstrating insecurity and therefore a show has to be made with a public display of fake affection.
Are you on facebook? How do you know this?
ReplyDeleteAre you the police? why do you care how he knows this?
DeleteEven worse there is no shomer negiah even before marriage and engagement. Frum couples doing selfies without busha as though they were already married.
ReplyDeleteRabbi Yaakov Meyer of Yeshivah Aish HaTorah in Denver:
ReplyDelete“Your personal default setting is confidentiality.”
SOURCE:
Gossip (chapter 12, page 95) by Lori Palatnik with Bob Burg, year 2002 CE, published by Simcha Press, Deerfield Beach, Florida, ISBN: 0757300553
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