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Update 12/30/13 GIYUS EVENT HAS BEEN CANCELLED!! read HERE
http://thepartialview.blogspot.com/2013/12/planned-giyus-protest-inthe-usa-called.html
Updated 12/30/2013 Following announcement The Belzer Rebbe will not be able to attend for personal reasons, Admorim now contemplating on postponing the Asifa and Giyus atzeres.
The steering committee for the upcoming Atzeres and kinus Gedolei hador on Giyus and redifas hadas are said to have set on a location and will be filing for permits. The Middlesex logistics distribution center is located on Mill Road at Nixon Lane in Edison,NJ. The facility is located approximately 3.5 miles from Exit 10 of the New Jersey Turnpike and I-287. It is said to hold 60,000 seats. It has heating and lighting and will be suitable for the event. The Asifa will take place Tuesday parshas beshalach January 7th, 2014 with the presence of Admorim from EY and Roshei Yeshiva of the Litvish Yeshivos in the US, along with thousands of Yidden from all backgrounds uniting for Kavod shamayim. The Moetzes of Agudas yisrael of Eretz yisrael will be flying in to attend this important and historic gathering.
Organizers insist the asifa is not pertaining specifically to the pending draft and giyus of yeshiva bochurim, but the message is to Jews in the diaspora explaining the plight of yidden in Eretz hakodesh. How the Netanyahu Government is uprooting all what the Torah stands for and how their policies are directed at Torah observant Jews. The financial burden placed on Yeshivos, mosdos and individuals by the cuts of the curent Isaeli Govt. It is not a protest, it is a Kinus of gedolei Hador who are screaming out to hashem.
Please explain what Netanyahu is doing "to uproot all what the Torah stands for".
ReplyDeleteAs I have said many times here, it is the Israeli public, through their elected representatives who are going to make the decisions on these matters. Is such hysterical rhetorical overkill the way to get them to be more sympathetic to Haredi demands? Is calling everyone who is in the slightest way critical of the Haredi community an antisemite and "enemy of Torah" justified?
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DeleteA warehouse?? thats not appealing, cant they have it in Yankee stadium? Was at Metlife stadiumfor Siyum and Citi Field for internet Asifa, Yankee stadium would have given me the triple crown :)
ReplyDelete"Yehudi Ne'emon"-
ReplyDeleteYour repeated comments here have indicated to me that there is something you don't understand. The fact is, whether you and I like it or not, that most Jews are not Orthodox/Religious. Another fact is, again, whether you and I like it or not, is that we are living in a world that reveres the concept of "pluralism". We are no longer living in a medieval ghetto where you can impose religious observance by fiat, and put those who don't conform in herem.
I also have to repeat: Whether you agree or not, the Jews (Am Israel) is a PEOPLE and the Torah is our constitution. That means you are bound to the other Jews, including the non-observant, whether you like it or not. You can not simply dismiss non-observant Jews as being "inauthentic" or "goyim" or "Amalekites" and then pretend they don't exist. You and I are still responsible to them, and just as they are bound up with the Torah, even if they aren't aware of this. In the Zionist Israel which you seem to have so many problems with, Zionist state law binds even non-religious Jews to the Torah at least for personal status, by demanding they get married by Orthodox Jewish Law, even if they don't really want it. This is NOT true in the holy United States where most non-observant Jews have no connection whatsover to the Torah. Also in Zionst Israel, state law insists that all public facilities (including the IDF) provide only Kosher foods and not do unnecessary work on Shabbat. Can non-Orthodox insitutions in the holy US make the same claim?
So much for the ridiculous argument that the Zionist state is "trying to uproot Judaism".
Therefore, the religious community is just going to have to face the fact that they are eventually going to have to conduct a REAL dialogue with broader Israeli society, who is the one who is ultimately going to make the decisions regarding funding for Haredi institutions and the policy for military conscription, something they have resolutely refused to do up until now, in order to explain their position, and how they view their relationship with the non-Haredi society Simply cursing those who even mildly criticize Haredi society and calling them "uprooters of Judaism" sets back this vital dialogue further and further and ultimately it is the Haredi community that is going to suffer by the disservice made by too many of their spokesmen who indulge in harmful rhetorical overkill
and who organize provocative demonstrations in other countries not even involved in these issues.
Finally, I think you should ask yourself why most of world Jewry abandoned Torah observance in the 19th and 20th century. It WASN"T because suddenly Jewish mothers gave birth to a generation of "reshaim" who became maskilim and Zionists. It WAS because the Torah did not speak to a generation that was undergoing massive changes with new ideas in education, science and democracy and that got tired of passively taking beatings from antisemites.
Secondly, you have to ask yourself why, if the Haredi lifestyle is so perfect, why is it not attractive either to the large majority of Jews who are not religiously and to other Orthodox/observant Jews who are not Haredi?
One of the greatest upholders of the truth, and fighter against Reform and Zionism-
ReplyDeleteRav Shamshon Raphael Hirsch zt”l, On His 125th Yahrtzeit, Today, 27 Teves - ZY''A!
I see a child enveloped in flames. The bystanders are afraid; they do nothing, or else they are only trying to save the building. I see the child. I rush in. Should I first ask my neighbor whether he, too, sees the child? Should I worry whether, in my haste, I am jostling someone, or perhaps hindering the salvage of the building by running in? Perhaps I am causing a draft, fanning the fire?
“‘But,’ you might ask, ‘what if you are too late? What if the building collapses on top of the child in a roaring conflagration before you reach it?’ To this I reply: ‘Were I to be buried under it, I would at least have done my duty.’” (Rav Shamshon Raphael Hirsch, Letter Nineteen, The Nineteen Letters).
I think that the situation of the yidden in E. Israel is quite good right now, thank you.
ReplyDeleteActually had my great grandparents who were charedi Jews in Europe actually known about what we have today I'm pretty sure they would have literally given their right hand for passage on a boat to the land of israel and kissed the ground of the land upon arrival and blessed every day they would be here with true hakaras hatov to hakadoysh boruch hu.
Until they met their cousins throughout the land who had had their peyos cut off and been spiritually gassed!
ReplyDeleteOr until their descendants where forced into the military slaughter-house!!
Actually most of their cousins were physically gassed. A much worse fate.
ReplyDeleteAnd one great grandmother saw her son impressed into a European army to fight someone else's war. Not pretty. She would have been very happy to know that she has descendants in the IDF. They would have considered it a privilege.
Do you guys really think that most same rational people actually think your self serving rhetoric makes sense?!? Let's be honest - most people don't really drink the kool aid. And for those who do it tends to wear off as the years go by. I think that most middle aged charedim who actually believe this stuff are probably suffering from such a high degree of cognitive dissonance that their grip on reality is probably no different than the average citizen of North Korea.
Our belief according to the Jewish holy-books will always be:
ReplyDelete"WORSE are those who cause others to sin than those who kill others"!